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	<title>Comments on: Stingrays are a tricky species</title>
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	<description>Reefs, coral, fish and aquariums.</description>
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		<title>By: “Someone who knows what they’re doing &#8230; terminated our fish.”</title>
		<link>http://blog.fragd.it/2009/02/05/stingrays-are-a-tricky-species/comment-page-1/#comment-4278</link>
		<dc:creator>“Someone who knows what they’re doing &#8230; terminated our fish.”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to pour something into the tanks.  Still, the first thing that comes to mind when reading this is human error.  Either way, hopefully the culprit is found [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to pour something into the tanks.  Still, the first thing that comes to mind when reading this is human error.  Either way, hopefully the culprit is found [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://blog.fragd.it/2009/02/05/stingrays-are-a-tricky-species/comment-page-1/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a different situation from LFS&#039;, but the method is the same.  One person is selling livestock to someone who doesn&#039;t know how to care for it.  It results in a lot of death.  Ignorance is blamed.

Rinse lather repeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a different situation from LFS&#8217;, but the method is the same.  One person is selling livestock to someone who doesn&#8217;t know how to care for it.  It results in a lot of death.  Ignorance is blamed.</p>
<p>Rinse lather repeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
		<link>http://blog.fragd.it/2009/02/05/stingrays-are-a-tricky-species/comment-page-1/#comment-1318</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that the supplier does not look like the bad guys here.  This is a different situation then a LFS selling something to joe blow off the street.  The supplier in question was selling these stingrays to a ZOO!  They are supposed to have qualified people who know what they are doing to look after each exhibit......sadly not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that the supplier does not look like the bad guys here.  This is a different situation then a LFS selling something to joe blow off the street.  The supplier in question was selling these stingrays to a ZOO!  They are supposed to have qualified people who know what they are doing to look after each exhibit&#8230;&#8230;sadly not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://blog.fragd.it/2009/02/05/stingrays-are-a-tricky-species/comment-page-1/#comment-1313</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  That whole article reeks of arrogance, ignorance and finger pointing.  A deadly combination.

Sad to think a $600 device would have saved 41 lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  That whole article reeks of arrogance, ignorance and finger pointing.  A deadly combination.</p>
<p>Sad to think a $600 device would have saved 41 lives.</p>
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		<title>By: stonyreef</title>
		<link>http://blog.fragd.it/2009/02/05/stingrays-are-a-tricky-species/comment-page-1/#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>stonyreef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An incident with stingrays happened at the Brookfield Zoo (outside Chicago here) last year. From the news articles I read, &lt;a&gt; I thought that it seemed that the entire situation may have been mostly avoidable&lt;/a&gt;, if not completely averted, had they been using gear that is available to us as hobbyists, like the AC3, or your recent post on the reefkeeper w/ net hook up. 

Now, re : a quote on the news link you provided -

&quot;&#039;I think we need to be very frank here. Our main expertise is not in fish here at the Calgary Zoo.&#039;&quot;

Um.... what? Wouldn&#039;t common sense dictate either hiring someone who is an expert to run the display, or to  not have the display at all? 

Sad. Poor rays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An incident with stingrays happened at the Brookfield Zoo (outside Chicago here) last year. From the news articles I read, <a> I thought that it seemed that the entire situation may have been mostly avoidable</a>, if not completely averted, had they been using gear that is available to us as hobbyists, like the AC3, or your recent post on the reefkeeper w/ net hook up. </p>
<p>Now, re : a quote on the news link you provided -</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;I think we need to be very frank here. Our main expertise is not in fish here at the Calgary Zoo.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Um&#8230;. what? Wouldn&#8217;t common sense dictate either hiring someone who is an expert to run the display, or to  not have the display at all? </p>
<p>Sad. Poor rays.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://blog.fragd.it/2009/02/05/stingrays-are-a-tricky-species/comment-page-1/#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, it&#039;s the &quot;you can lead a horse to water thing...&quot;, but ask yourself this; how many stores are leading their customers to, er, water?

I was at Big Al&#039;s Scarborough and I was floored to see a photocopied informational sheet.  It&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve ever seen something like that IN A STORE.  Why isn&#039;t that being done more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, it&#8217;s the &#8220;you can lead a horse to water thing&#8230;&#8221;, but ask yourself this; how many stores are leading their customers to, er, water?</p>
<p>I was at Big Al&#8217;s Scarborough and I was floored to see a photocopied informational sheet.  It&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve ever seen something like that IN A STORE.  Why isn&#8217;t that being done more?</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hubert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the difference between that Zoo&#039;s supplier and any of our LFS.  If customer do not ask specific questions and ask for help, you cannot underestimate them and push knowledge to them.   No big deal. 

Zoos are usually very stubborn organizations that refuses to learn or solicit help.  Look at the Toronto one and what happened to their reef tank even though they have numerous help from local clubs... they just do not listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the difference between that Zoo&#8217;s supplier and any of our LFS.  If customer do not ask specific questions and ask for help, you cannot underestimate them and push knowledge to them.   No big deal. </p>
<p>Zoos are usually very stubborn organizations that refuses to learn or solicit help.  Look at the Toronto one and what happened to their reef tank even though they have numerous help from local clubs&#8230; they just do not listen.</p>
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